First dates can be fun, awkward, boring, amazing, and anything in between. Today, Erika and Chris share some first date dos and don’ts to make sure you’re on the right track.

Hand-holding, kissing, other forms of intimacy… there’s a time and a place for all of them. But, when is that time and place? The first date? The third? And which would you prefer to do first — hold hands or smooch? In today’s episode, Erika shares a story about a first date of her own and then introduces a surprise guest. Then, she and Chris discuss how one person’s hierarchy of intimacy may differ from another person’s.